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The Collapse of the Greatest Nation in a Century
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+ Pelador	Jan 2 2012, 05:59 PM Post #61
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Your source is biased. The guardian is a left wing paper with it's own agendas.
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Fulgore	Jan 2 2012, 06:01 PM Post #62
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Pelador Jan 2 2012, 05:59 PM Your source is biased. The guardian is a left wing paper with it's own agendas. OH YES, then go RESEARCH IT YOURSELF. This is not about "BLANK IS RIGHT WING" Both Democrats AND republicans passed this *****, it's no longer about parties its about the fact that a bi-partisan act such as the constitution has just been defiled. This is no longer about Right vs Left, it's the fact that America is taking direct steps towards becoming a facist nation. Reality check pelador.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 2 2012, 06:13 PM Post #63
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	Fulgore Jan 2 2012, 05:52 PM Uhh.. You clearly are NOT up to date with what's going on. Read what the NDAA is capable of. Ignorance is bliss. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/02/ndaa-historic-assault-american-liberty?newsfeed=true American citizens can be detained indefinitely without due process, making America a war zone. Ron Paul said it right in regards to this bill. The Bill of Rights has no exceptions for really bad people or terrorists or even non-citizens. It is a key check on government power against any person. That is not a weakness in our legal system; it is the very strength of our legal system. The NDAA attempts to justify abridging the Bill of Rights on the theory that rights are suspended in a time of war, and the entire United States is a battlefield in the war on terror. This is a very dangerous development, indeed. Beware. Do some research you guys talk as if you care, but I'm not seeing it BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! ignorance IS bliss, let me educate you son... the japanese americans were held by ROOSEVELT back in the 1940's without due process and elimination of their rights, so were anyone of german and italian descent. DID you know that communist hopefuls back in the 50's and 60's were held for no good reason and called "enemies" of the government and thrown in jain on POLITICAL auspices? and that was by a SENATOR!!! joseph mccarthy was his name. so dont tell me Obama has unlocked this UNKNOWN rule when its been going on for almost a hundred years to date as it is. try again fulgore.



Fulgore	Jan 2 2012, 06:27 PM Post #64
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Ninjajp247 Jan 2 2012, 06:13 PM Fulgore Jan 2 2012, 05:52 PM Uhh.. You clearly are NOT up to date with what's going on. Read what the NDAA is capable of. Ignorance is bliss. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/02/ndaa-historic-assault-american-liberty?newsfeed=true American citizens can be detained indefinitely without due process, making America a war zone. Ron Paul said it right in regards to this bill. The Bill of Rights has no exceptions for really bad people or terrorists or even non-citizens. It is a key check on government power against any person. That is not a weakness in our legal system; it is the very strength of our legal system. The NDAA attempts to justify abridging the Bill of Rights on the theory that rights are suspended in a time of war, and the entire United States is a battlefield in the war on terror. This is a very dangerous development, indeed. Beware. Do some research you guys talk as if you care, but I'm not seeing it BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! ignorance IS bliss, let me educate you son... the japanese americans were held by ROOSEVELT back in the 1940's without due process and elimination of their rights, so were anyone of german and italian descent. DID you know that communist hopefuls back in the 50's and 60's were held for no good reason and called "enemies" of the government and thrown in jain on POLITICAL auspices? and that was by a SENATOR!!! joseph mccarthy was his name. so dont tell me Obama has unlocked this UNKNOWN rule when its been going on for almost a hundred years to date as it is. try again fulgore. COMPLETELY irrelevant to the NDAA. You clearly don't understand what's going on if you think that it's no different.. LET ME PUT THIS INTO SIMPLER TERMS FOR YOU. IT WILL BE 100% LEGAL FOR THEM TO DO WHAT WAS ILLEGAL BEFORE. IT WAS NOT RIGHT IN THE PAST FOR THEM TO DO THAT. NOW IT IS 100% ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW. The Constitution and bill of rights were in place for a reason, this basically says "YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS. REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU ARE." BIG BIG difference. JP You're just rambling off at the mouth Edited by Fulgore, Jan 2 2012, 06:29 PM.
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Optimus Banana	Jan 2 2012, 06:27 PM Post #65
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Well, Obama had it changed so I couldnt take any citizen, if there is a know terrorist group on American soil it authorizes military force to detain said group. He had changed last week I believe.
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Fulgore	Jan 2 2012, 06:30 PM Post #66
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	About 37 Llamas Jan 2 2012, 06:27 PM Well, Obama had it changed so I couldnt take any citizen, if there is a know terrorist group on American soil it authorizes military force to detain said group. He had changed last week I believe. It does not protect American citizens at ALL. (e) AUTHORITIES. -- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States. The key to subsection 1021(e) is its claim that sec. 1021 does not "affect existing law or authorities" relating to the detention of persons arrested on U.S. soil. If the President's expansive view of his own power were in statute, that statement would be true. Instead, the section codifies the President's view as if it had always existed, authorizing detention of "persons" regardless of citizenship or where they are arrested. It then disingenuously says the bill doesn't change that view. as Justin Amash put it. It's also note worthy to mention the patriot act, and how it works in conjunction with this act. This basically piggy backs right on it's back. Edited by Fulgore, Jan 2 2012, 06:45 PM.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 2 2012, 06:51 PM Post #67
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	what about american citizens in my last statement did YOU miss? all of it WAS perfectly legal, acting like this hasnt happend before is just telling us you dont have a clue about the United staes history. Go read a school social studies book, at least you'll get an idea that this has BEEN happening, and people considered terrorist or a terrorist "threat" have been getting locked up for years. Wow man read a book.



Fulgore	Jan 2 2012, 06:55 PM Post #68
The Darkness Returns Posts: 3,163 Group: Member Member #5,205 Joined: September 2, 2010	Ninjajp247 Jan 2 2012, 06:51 PM what about american citizens in my last statement did YOU miss? all of it WAS perfectly legal, acting like this hasnt happend before is just telling us you dont have a clue about the United staes history. Go read a school social studies book, at least you'll get an idea that this has BEEN happening, and people considered terrorist or a terrorist "threat" have been getting locked up for years. Wow man read a book. I'm really done with you jp, welcome to Ignoreville with Cal.
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Cal	Jan 2 2012, 06:57 PM Post #69
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Fulgore Jan 2 2012, 06:55 PM Ninjajp247 Jan 2 2012, 06:51 PM what about american citizens in my last statement did YOU miss? all of it WAS perfectly legal, acting like this hasnt happend before is just telling us you dont have a clue about the United staes history. Go read a school social studies book, at least you'll get an idea that this has BEEN happening, and people considered terrorist or a terrorist "threat" have been getting locked up for years. Wow man read a book. I'm really done with you jp, welcome to Ignoreville with Cal. Better to be in ignoreville than ignorantville my friend. Also, have no idea what you guys are talking about just thought I would retaliate.



Optimus Banana	Jan 2 2012, 06:58 PM Post #70
Posts: 837 Group: Member Member #5,898 Joined: March 25, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	http://newsone.com/nation/associatedpress3/obama-says-ndaa-bill-will-not-authorize-indefinite-detention/ This is what I heard.
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Meowth	Jan 2 2012, 06:59 PM Post #71
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	This thread has outlived its purpose I believe. Time to put it to bed.



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